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		<title>By: netclick SEO blog</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-80518</link>
		<dc:creator>netclick SEO blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually use nofollow on my blogroll, everywhere but the homepage. By this way you give link juice to blogs that you read, while at the same time you keep a minimum number of outbound links to your post pages. Regarding the editorial links, I never use nofollow, since it has been proven many times that people who see their links to your post, link back to your website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually use nofollow on my blogroll, everywhere but the homepage. By this way you give link juice to blogs that you read, while at the same time you keep a minimum number of outbound links to your post pages. Regarding the editorial links, I never use nofollow, since it has been proven many times that people who see their links to your post, link back to your website.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Link Love for June 5, 2009 - Agent SEO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Link Love for June 5, 2009 - Agent SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PageRank Sculpting: Advanced SEOs Fooled by Cat Blogger Interesting argument over the practice of PageRank Sculpting. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SEO Guru &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead)</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Guru &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead) &#124; Kayyou Best SEO site ever</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-74719</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead) &#124; Kayyou Best SEO site ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead) &#124; Did You Know?</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-71798</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead) &#124; Did You Know?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead) &#124; Massive Marketers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead) &#124; Massive Marketers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SEO 2.0 &#124; Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead)</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO 2.0 &#124; Matt Cutts Acknowledges SEO 2.0 Tactic of Linking Out as Ranking Factor (Nofollow is Dead)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beard did. So I read the &#8220;nofollow is dead&#8221; posting which is of course called &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; to hide the fact that Google admits its failure with the nofollow [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tad Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-67131</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melanie: Read closely please and do not cut the context when citing. Obviously I refer to blogs and not to corporate sites itself. Also just linking out to your competitors is plainly stupid: I wonder why you bring it up? Is it irony? 

On the other hand there are no competitors when you blog (watch out I refer to blogs here again, not corporate sites). There are just blogging colleagues. I blog for clients in different industries and languages. In niches where there are only a few blogs or where bloggers link less than in the SEO industry. Nonetheless I achieved great results. Also I link out like hell on my own SEO 2.0 blog for almost 2 years now and guess who&#039;s #4 for seo blog globally? Me, not the other bloggers I linked out to numerous times.
It&#039;s a very old tactic btw. as Google has been identifying so called &quot;hub sites&quot; for years and pushing them up in the rankings. Hub sites are sites that link out plenty ;-) In case you prefer dead end sites it&#039;s your choice but don&#039;t tell me that linking out does not work just because you don&#039;t know how to do it. I still can&#039;t believe it: Did you just suggest I should link out to competitors?

On the PageRank sculpting thing: When you choose to spend valuable hours of work on that, it&#039;s your choice. It&#039;s tedious and dangerous and as you see now you don&#039;t even know if it works at all in your favor. In case your clients like to pay for that, great for you, not so great for them. I prefer real optimization techniques instead of selectively hurting your own site or by now hurting it altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie: Read closely please and do not cut the context when citing. Obviously I refer to blogs and not to corporate sites itself. Also just linking out to your competitors is plainly stupid: I wonder why you bring it up? Is it irony? </p>
<p>On the other hand there are no competitors when you blog (watch out I refer to blogs here again, not corporate sites). There are just blogging colleagues. I blog for clients in different industries and languages. In niches where there are only a few blogs or where bloggers link less than in the SEO industry. Nonetheless I achieved great results. Also I link out like hell on my own SEO 2.0 blog for almost 2 years now and guess who&#8217;s #4 for seo blog globally? Me, not the other bloggers I linked out to numerous times.<br />
It&#8217;s a very old tactic btw. as Google has been identifying so called &#8220;hub sites&#8221; for years and pushing them up in the rankings. Hub sites are sites that link out plenty ;-) In case you prefer dead end sites it&#8217;s your choice but don&#8217;t tell me that linking out does not work just because you don&#8217;t know how to do it. I still can&#8217;t believe it: Did you just suggest I should link out to competitors?</p>
<p>On the PageRank sculpting thing: When you choose to spend valuable hours of work on that, it&#8217;s your choice. It&#8217;s tedious and dangerous and as you see now you don&#8217;t even know if it works at all in your favor. In case your clients like to pay for that, great for you, not so great for them. I prefer real optimization techniques instead of selectively hurting your own site or by now hurting it altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-66974</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Linking out is the best link building strategy.&quot;

This may be true for *some* industries, but for the most part, wow do I ever disagree with that statement. If that were the case, I&#039;d be advising my clients to simply link to all their competitors. It&#039;s *much* better to just have the competitor link to my client ;)

As for nofollow, I let the link juice flow freely (both internal and external)... within my posts. Links that are repetitive (i.e. they show up on every page) though (such as my blog roll) are nofollowed everywhere but the homepage. I&#039;m happy with the results and so are the people I link to because 1 homepage link can be more beneficial than the same link sitewide.

Thanks for the post. It was most informative. Shame it never went hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Linking out is the best link building strategy.&#8221;</p>
<p>This may be true for *some* industries, but for the most part, wow do I ever disagree with that statement. If that were the case, I&#8217;d be advising my clients to simply link to all their competitors. It&#8217;s *much* better to just have the competitor link to my client ;)</p>
<p>As for nofollow, I let the link juice flow freely (both internal and external)&#8230; within my posts. Links that are repetitive (i.e. they show up on every page) though (such as my blog roll) are nofollowed everywhere but the homepage. I&#8217;m happy with the results and so are the people I link to because 1 homepage link can be more beneficial than the same link sitewide.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post. It was most informative. Shame it never went hot.</p>
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		<title>By: Tad Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-66951</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geobak: I always use real links for linking out on blogs. How else do you want to show other bloggers that you really do trust them and their writings? Linking out is the best link building strategy. People notice you and link back. It&#039;s as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geobak: I always use real links for linking out on blogs. How else do you want to show other bloggers that you really do trust them and their writings? Linking out is the best link building strategy. People notice you and link back. It&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: geobak</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-66886</link>
		<dc:creator>geobak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the links at this post that you gibe to searchengineland&#039;s are DOFOLLOW?


I use nofollow at my blog to drive pagerank within my own pages.I no follow most of the links i give out to other blogs or threads from other sites and i knwo that this technique is used by many big sites.I was wondering whether i should stop doing it now that there are those rumors...

What do you suggest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the links at this post that you gibe to searchengineland&#8217;s are DOFOLLOW?</p>
<p>I use nofollow at my blog to drive pagerank within my own pages.I no follow most of the links i give out to other blogs or threads from other sites and i knwo that this technique is used by many big sites.I was wondering whether i should stop doing it now that there are those rumors&#8230;</p>
<p>What do you suggest?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Gibbons</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-66323</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Gibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, yes that&#039;s because it&#039;s a blog comment. In this case nofollow helps in order to keep control of the external sites we link to on the site.

In this case my profile page is an internal link but all comments are treated the same way, it&#039;s definitely not done for &quot;PageRank sculpting&quot; reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, yes that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a blog comment. In this case nofollow helps in order to keep control of the external sites we link to on the site.</p>
<p>In this case my profile page is an internal link but all comments are treated the same way, it&#8217;s definitely not done for &#8220;PageRank sculpting&#8221; reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cloke</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-66227</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw. Kevin Gibbons name above is &quot;nofollowed&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw. Kevin Gibbons name above is &#8220;nofollowed&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Gibbons</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/06/pagerank-sculpting-advanced-seos-fooled-by-cat-blogger.html/comment-page-1#comment-66200</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Gibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Tad, well spotted about SEOptimise not using nofollow too! 

Completely agree that nofollow tags may have a negative impact over how a website is crawled and prevents link value being passed from the blocked pages. Surely &quot;noindex, follow&quot; is a more sensible option in this case? Plus I&#039;ve always felt that contact details/about us/privacy policy/terms and conditions etc (which are often nofollowed links) are very important in terms of highlighting the trust and creditability of a website. So blocking access to these pages because they are not optimised may cause additional problems to a sites overall search performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Tad, well spotted about SEOptimise not using nofollow too! </p>
<p>Completely agree that nofollow tags may have a negative impact over how a website is crawled and prevents link value being passed from the blocked pages. Surely &#8220;noindex, follow&#8221; is a more sensible option in this case? Plus I&#8217;ve always felt that contact details/about us/privacy policy/terms and conditions etc (which are often nofollowed links) are very important in terms of highlighting the trust and creditability of a website. So blocking access to these pages because they are not optimised may cause additional problems to a sites overall search performance.</p>
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