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		<title>By: Rob McCance</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76725</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob McCance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post and I agree with most all of it. As someone that &quot;does it all&quot; for our company from hand coding our non-WordPress site, to running the AdWords, SEoing the site, to artistic design, you&#039;re right - there&#039;s a LOT to it. Further, it&#039;s all inter-related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post and I agree with most all of it. As someone that &#8220;does it all&#8221; for our company from hand coding our non-WordPress site, to running the AdWords, SEoing the site, to artistic design, you&#8217;re right &#8211; there&#8217;s a LOT to it. Further, it&#8217;s all inter-related.</p>
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		<title>By: 杭州SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76553</link>
		<dc:creator>杭州SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post&quot;An SEO who ignores social media, usability and conversions doesn’t do enough these days.&quot;   currently，as a SEOs we face more challenges and time is limited
    * analytics 1h
    * blogging/content creation 3h
    * social media participation 3h
    * usability &amp; conversions (A/B split testing) 3h
    * classic SEO (on page, link building) 1h</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post&#8221;An SEO who ignores social media, usability and conversions doesn’t do enough these days.&#8221;   currently，as a SEOs we face more challenges and time is limited<br />
    * analytics 1h<br />
    * blogging/content creation 3h<br />
    * social media participation 3h<br />
    * usability &amp; conversions (A/B split testing) 3h<br />
    * classic SEO (on page, link building) 1h</p>
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		<title>By: Minefield! &#124; Hobo</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76520</link>
		<dc:creator>Minefield! &#124; Hobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SEO is so different these days. in fact, SEO is so 2003. It truly is about search engine marketing these days and the more than ten ways free ways to get into Google results. It&#8217;s not just about getting better postions on narrow terms, though sometimes it is depending on what you&#8217;re getting paid to do. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SEO is so different these days. in fact, SEO is so 2003. It truly is about search engine marketing these days and the more than ten ways free ways to get into Google results. It&#8217;s not just about getting better postions on narrow terms, though sometimes it is depending on what you&#8217;re getting paid to do. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Doman</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76515</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Doman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone has to move on. It should be obvious that online business is changing and it&#039;s a process. It was, is and will be changing all the time. In order to be a successful businessmen online, we have to follow the changes.
New inventions will not end and it applies to SEO: there is more and more factors to focus on. More people have to work on SEO, more time has to be spent on optimizing a website, more effort has to be made.
That is why posts like that are blessings for us - thanks to them we can keep up with the changes and be up-to-date with SEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has to move on. It should be obvious that online business is changing and it&#8217;s a process. It was, is and will be changing all the time. In order to be a successful businessmen online, we have to follow the changes.<br />
New inventions will not end and it applies to SEO: there is more and more factors to focus on. More people have to work on SEO, more time has to be spent on optimizing a website, more effort has to be made.<br />
That is why posts like that are blessings for us &#8211; thanks to them we can keep up with the changes and be up-to-date with SEO.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Del Santo</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76409</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Del Santo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am persuaded by Tad&#039;s arguments and I find his logic compelling. In fact, I have had the chance to work in a digital agency following that kind of philosophy regarding &#039;holism&#039; and it most definitely works.

Ona caveat though: integrating those kinds of projects and making SEO, SEM, analytics, ORM and other consultants together is anything but easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am persuaded by Tad&#8217;s arguments and I find his logic compelling. In fact, I have had the chance to work in a digital agency following that kind of philosophy regarding &#8216;holism&#8217; and it most definitely works.</p>
<p>Ona caveat though: integrating those kinds of projects and making SEO, SEM, analytics, ORM and other consultants together is anything but easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76392</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I to cannot beleive the outstanding timing of this post, I completed a site for a client approxomately one and a half years ago. I had recommended most of the SEO points mentioned above.

He emailed last night complaining that his site had spiraled from the first page of Google to the 19th, blaming the optimisation of the site and wanting to change his metatags.

Completelly bowled over I asked if he had followed the recommended advise some of which stated below...
* Provide real information to your visitor, via frequent news postings on the site minimum 3 articles a week.
* Connect with your clients via facebook, it is not just an advertising platform reach out to them at their level.
etc. etc. etc.

To all he answered &quot;NO&quot;, and to boot he said that news posts are useless, and adding that in business you are not seeking to make friends but to sell.

Mmmm, definately model T client... I advised him to change his ways as soon as possible and to follow my advise that was after all what he was paying me for.

So all that boils down to this...

I have sent him a link to this great article, who knows maybe this will help him change his mind.

Life of a developer and SEO advisor may be tough at times... LOL have a great w/end folks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to cannot beleive the outstanding timing of this post, I completed a site for a client approxomately one and a half years ago. I had recommended most of the SEO points mentioned above.</p>
<p>He emailed last night complaining that his site had spiraled from the first page of Google to the 19th, blaming the optimisation of the site and wanting to change his metatags.</p>
<p>Completelly bowled over I asked if he had followed the recommended advise some of which stated below&#8230;<br />
* Provide real information to your visitor, via frequent news postings on the site minimum 3 articles a week.<br />
* Connect with your clients via facebook, it is not just an advertising platform reach out to them at their level.<br />
etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>To all he answered &#8220;NO&#8221;, and to boot he said that news posts are useless, and adding that in business you are not seeking to make friends but to sell.</p>
<p>Mmmm, definately model T client&#8230; I advised him to change his ways as soon as possible and to follow my advise that was after all what he was paying me for.</p>
<p>So all that boils down to this&#8230;</p>
<p>I have sent him a link to this great article, who knows maybe this will help him change his mind.</p>
<p>Life of a developer and SEO advisor may be tough at times&#8230; LOL have a great w/end folks</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Pakistan</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76391</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEO do exists and now SEO is far more tougher job then it was before, todays SEO is more technical, there are alot of techniques involved in increasing traffic and improving site&#039;s visibility. I firmly believe that SEO do exists coz I am a SEO;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEO do exists and now SEO is far more tougher job then it was before, todays SEO is more technical, there are alot of techniques involved in increasing traffic and improving site&#8217;s visibility. I firmly believe that SEO do exists coz I am a SEO;)</p>
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		<title>By: Deana</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76386</link>
		<dc:creator>Deana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. And, Amen, Todd! I was surprised a few weeks ago when a conversation at our local BarCamp became white hat vs. black hat -- with a very vocal and rude black hatter who insisted that content was only a tool...not king. I was pretty furious. If you care to read my semi-rant, here it is: http://www.wellplannedweb.com/2009/09/blogging-seo-content/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. And, Amen, Todd! I was surprised a few weeks ago when a conversation at our local BarCamp became white hat vs. black hat &#8212; with a very vocal and rude black hatter who insisted that content was only a tool&#8230;not king. I was pretty furious. If you care to read my semi-rant, here it is: <a href="http://www.wellplannedweb.com/2009/09/blogging-seo-content/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wellplannedweb.com/2009/09/blogging-seo-content/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Todd Perlee</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76362</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Perlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good timing on the last blog. I speak to a lot of prospects who are confused by SEO companies who &quot;guarantee&quot; doubling traffic to their sites– seems gimmicky. Do you make similar claims to your clients and do you &quot;compete&quot; with design firms for web projects? As an art director/designer, I&#039;m getting a little impatient with having to explain what the SEO industry does when the conversation should be about branding, quality content and good ol&#039; fashion link building. Here&#039;s a little tip for the SEO community you may not have learned in programming class: Technology should not drive brands–other way around. Todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good timing on the last blog. I speak to a lot of prospects who are confused by SEO companies who &#8220;guarantee&#8221; doubling traffic to their sites– seems gimmicky. Do you make similar claims to your clients and do you &#8220;compete&#8221; with design firms for web projects? As an art director/designer, I&#8217;m getting a little impatient with having to explain what the SEO industry does when the conversation should be about branding, quality content and good ol&#8217; fashion link building. Here&#8217;s a little tip for the SEO community you may not have learned in programming class: Technology should not drive brands–other way around. Todd</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Gronland</title>
		<link>http://www.seoptimise.com/blog/2009/10/does-seo-still-exist.html/comment-page-1#comment-76360</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Gronland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I completely aggree with the points you have raised I would say that this is still SEO, maybe not traditional Search engine optimisation but all of the above elements go to addressing the requirements from the search engines for natural rankings &amp; are rewarded by the engines. 

We&#039;d all be spamming away like the bad old days if the engines still allowed and rewarded this. I&#039;m sure we&#039;d all be bloggin etc too but if we didn&#039;t get the benefits of backlinks and addiview tional traffic, would we be bothering?? probably not.

Most of us are in this market place to promote web sites in whatever format(s) provide the best commercial success, hence why new innovations and methods come and go with a few becoming permanents.

There was barely any banners in place when I started, no ppc, no networks, no social networking/media, so we focussed onto SEO as it was the best performing medium online, it still is but is very well complimented by other mediums.

Will be printing this off for my offline colleagues though.

Cheers 

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I completely aggree with the points you have raised I would say that this is still SEO, maybe not traditional Search engine optimisation but all of the above elements go to addressing the requirements from the search engines for natural rankings &amp; are rewarded by the engines. </p>
<p>We&#8217;d all be spamming away like the bad old days if the engines still allowed and rewarded this. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;d all be bloggin etc too but if we didn&#8217;t get the benefits of backlinks and addiview tional traffic, would we be bothering?? probably not.</p>
<p>Most of us are in this market place to promote web sites in whatever format(s) provide the best commercial success, hence why new innovations and methods come and go with a few becoming permanents.</p>
<p>There was barely any banners in place when I started, no ppc, no networks, no social networking/media, so we focussed onto SEO as it was the best performing medium online, it still is but is very well complimented by other mediums.</p>
<p>Will be printing this off for my offline colleagues though.</p>
<p>Cheers </p>
<p>Pete</p>
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