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10 Resources: SEO Going Underground Again

Posted on November 20th, 2009 by Tad Chef

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The white hat vs black hat discussion in SEO often misses one point. It’s not always actually about what color your hat is or how “un/ethical” your practices are. It’s about how SEO is viewed by others.

Decision makers in search and social media rarely take a close look whether your SEO efforts are ethical, white hat, clean or in accordance with their TOS.

They don’t have the time and will to do so. They will single you out, ban you or cripple your accounts based on the assumption that you practice SEO at all. They will penalize you for the slightest misstep while others without the label SEO will get away with murder. That’s the way things work on the Web today. It’s a sad realization but it’s true.

2 years ago I went public hailing the new better, cleaner, more ethical SEO. I proposed a version of SEO that was even more ethical than the SEO Google proposes, a SEO that does not actually rely on SEO but is simple common sense use of the Web. The Web didn’t listen though.

I loved social media, but social media didn’t love me back.

I left Mixx of my own accord after a temporary ban and then I got silently banned on YCombinator Hacker News and probably on StumbleUpon as well. On all 3 sites I had to deal with prejudice and hate towards the SEO industry from the start and no one ever asked me if it’s me who is spamming. I was the perfect scape goat for all of them in spite of being twice as clean as normal users.

I haven’t done anything wrong neither on Mixx, nor Hacker News and StumbleUpon. I didn’t even really use them for SEO purposes that is to promote myself or my clients. My goal was to get a name there. I didn’t practice self submission or something. My SEO blog has been submitted by others I didn’t ask to do so beforehand.

Writing about SEO was enough of wrongdoing.

I didn’t even try to use Digg or Reddit where the SEO hate is so overwhelming that it didn’t make sense in the first place to educate them about real SEO. Nonetheless I have been treated like “sh*t” on all three sites where I have contributed countless of hours of my valuable time as well as provided a huge amount of “user generated content”. They earned money on my back and they I got my *ss kicked. Don’t try it yourself. Twitter is currently the only general interest social site that really works for me as an “SEO”.

Google has a different, more down to earth approach to SEO but still as Aaron Wall and Micheal Gray often have reported a double standard, see their articles below.

Why should you victimize yourself by calling yourself an SEO?

So my advice is: Keep it low key. Do whatever you do, but don’t call yourself an SEO unless you offer SEO services to clients. Otherwise earn your money and mind your business. People don’t want to know about the good clean SEO. Only a few will listen. Most people don’t care and prefer to hate you for mentioning the evil acronym. I have tried the righteous path for 2 years and learned it the hard way.

Now after the reality check I will change my strategy in 2010. Will I become a black hat? No, but I won’t try to educate the ignorant as much as I did in the past. I will take care of my business and earn the money instead of trying to teach others what they don’t want to know.

Not only should you mind your business, you should mind your own business.

Working for clients can be great, I have the greatest clients you can imagine right now, but still you are dependent on other people and you’re building businesses for others. Make sure to work on your own projects so that you have enough money and online real estate to be independent. This way clients are a nice to have and the risk is low. When working only for yourself you don’t even need to call yourself an SEO.

Read more about SEO going underground again elsewhere:

  1. SEO goes back Underground in 2009
  2. WhiteHat SEOs Going Underground
  3. Google Openly Profiles SEOs As Criminals
  4. SEOs are not Criminals
  5. There Is Definitely Something Devious Going on Over at Reddit!
  6. Are You Really “Ghost Banned” on StumbleUpon?
  7. Big Brands? Google Brand Promotion: New Search Engine Rankings Place Heavy Emphasis on Branding
  8. How Does the Algorithm View Your Website?
  9. The Only Real Hoax is that Google Treats Everyone The Same
  10. Google The Double Standard of Being an Authority Website
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11 Responses to “10 Resources: SEO Going Underground Again”

  1. Chris says:

    Great artilce. I really like the last section about ’seo experts’

  2. Leslie says:

    I agree, when work as a SEO consultant that is who and what I am – when working on my own sites I use different user names to keep it all separate, though I sometimes mix them up…

  3. Juiceelinks says:

    It is completely a case of a few bad apples… I just had an article dumped from a directory because they considered it to be spam. When I never even wrote the article with the intent of even link building. It was completely PSA (public service announcement).

    And yet, other SEO-enabled articles still remain.

    Let the witch-hunt begin!

  4. DevonK says:

    Man is that ever true. People are so entrenched in their own ideas of what everything is and how it “should” be done there is no room for movement. I find like business in general, people don’t want to know the “real” risks involved, they want to think whatever they want to and expect the world to revolve around it. Then when they get dropped in the search results they blame everyone else for the situation they asked for or created themselves.

    Great Post!

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  6. imavex says:

    Very interesting insight and thank you for sharing your experience. I especially like your quote, “Why should you victimize yourself by calling yourself an SEO?”. Very funny.

  7. Damian Doman says:

    Great! Take care of your business and stop educating. You’ll be calmer and happier:-) Anyway, it’s a really good article!

  8. Daniel says:

    Great article, which I agree with. Whilst at work I am an SEO Consultant, as that is the service we offer but when working for myself its a totally different story.

  9. Joe F says:

    So true, the SEO rules are extremely unfair. I had my carpet cleaning site deindexed by Google. I still don’t know what happened exactly, but it sucks when I come across sites that have spam plastered all over them. But like you said that’s the state of SEO and we must learn to work within the walls.

  10. Samuel Montreal says:

    So true, the bad apples are make us all SEOs looking bad in the web dev, designers and other web workers even users, look bad and evil. As I do SEO for clients, I still need to promote myself as so. But in 2010, will focus on the common sense approach which is something I’m a big fan anyway; blending Usability, Accessbility, Technical SEO and Online marketing together… :-)
    keep it up Ted, always good to read your stuff

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